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[Lalallala]

Man.. if these are the expected ranges then I have definitely been tipping too much….

 

[OG_funguy]

Man.. if these are the expected ranges then I have definitely been tipping too much….

Look at the poll results. Around 80% agree…in fact, over 13% say they are too high

 

[startbeforeIfinish]

Man.. if these are the expected ranges then I have definitely been tipping too much….

going down in your tip is sketchy. Me and my regular had union negotiations and there was a lot of fireworks but we solved it for 9 months now and amicable for both sides.

 

[TheIronMan]

Good post but the massage industry is dead - it's only for old fucks who have no game and libido. For $20 to $30 more you can get laid. All these massage reviews on this site are jokes - OMG her tease was great. Like what? GTFO! Just because you're stuck in a dead bedroom marriage and lack any action don't overhype how exciting it is to get your balls grazed. Fucking jokes. Also I find a lot of the promoters don't pay the room fee at these places so they refuse to consider agencies and other spas where they don't get discounts. There's a whole world out there. I assume the following things will happen in the next year or two - prices will come down by $10 or $20, a lot of new places will close and service levels will go up as girls stick to their regulars. Right now the market sucks.

 

[Lalallala]

Good post but the massage industry is dead - it's only for old fucks who have no game and libido. For $20 to $30 more you can get laid. All these massage reviews on this site are jokes - OMG her tease was great. Like what? GTFO! Just because you're stuck in a dead bedroom marriage and lack any action don't overhype how exciting it is to get your balls grazed. Fucking jokes. Also I find a lot of the promoters don't pay the room fee at these places so they refuse to consider agencies and other spas where they don't get discounts. There's a whole world out there. I assume the following things will happen in the next year or two - prices will come down by $10 or $20, a lot of new places will close and service levels will go up as girls stick to their regulars. Right now the market sucks.

Well… found the new guy.

ETA: I was going to let you figure it out but I don’t think you will, so I will spell it out for you. I mean, I came from a mostly holistic background myself. There’s two main differences in a semi session and a holistic session. The first is time - 60 minutes versus 30 minutes makes a huge difference in pacing. Definitely don’t feel as rushed in a semi as a holistic spa. And the get-to-know-you portion helps a lot. The second is that semi girls don’t have sex all that often. And definitely not with every customer. So if you are lucky enough to be those customers, then it’s a much better experience because they *want* to have sex with you instead of having to with every customer.

The one major downside is that a vast majority of semis don’t allow sex. So you have to be quiet and discrete. So you can’t be railing the girl all Willy nilly . It’s not too uncommon for the mamasan to be standing outside the door listening to make sure you aren’t up to any good, so that’s a huge challenge to overcome.

 

[Lalallala]

going down in your tip is sketchy. Me and my regular had union negotiations and there was a lot of fireworks but we solved it for 9 months now and amicable for both sides.

Hahah that’s great. I don’t know.. I kept thinking that this is still much cheaper than actually dating

ETA: one of my favs actually told me to spend less on her. She said she will take it if I give it to her but she’s ok with much less too.

 

[OG_funguy]

Well… found the new guy.

ETA: I was going to let you figure it out but I don’t think you will, so I will spell it out for you. I mean, I came from a mostly holistic background myself. There’s two main differences in a semi session and a holistic session. The first is time - 60 minutes versus 30 minutes makes a huge difference in pacing. Definitely don’t feel as rushed in a semi as a holistic spa. And the get-to-know-you portion helps a lot. The second is that semi girls don’t have sex all that often. And definitely not with every customer. So if you are lucky enough to be those customers, then it’s a much better experience because they *want* to have sex with you instead of having to with every customer.

The one major downside is that a vast majority of semis don’t allow sex. So you have to be quiet and discrete. So you can’t be railing the girl all Willy nilly . It’s not too uncommon for the mamasan to be standing outside the door listening to make sure you aren’t up to any good, so that’s a huge challenge to overcome.

Good points, personally I don't like the "transactional" nature of holistic spas.

And don't forget, most customers go to semi spas because they actually want a good massage too...not everyone is seeking the higher level services.

 

[Lalallala]

Good points, personally I don't like the "transactional" nature of holistic spas.

True. But sometimes you don’t want to have to be quiet.

And don't forget, most customers go to semi spas because they actually want a good massage too...not everyone is seeking the higher level services.

Yeah. I only mentioned the holistic part because I used to frequent them and I guess so does that guy. The feeling is much different. Tbh when I want a good massage - I don’t want the services. So I have to explicitly tell the girl not to do anything or just go to a legit place. And hopefully that doesn’t backfire on me.

 

[SuductionGaveMeHPV]

Stephanie and Lauren from suduciton spa gave me 2 species of genital warts on purpose. They said it was because I conceived a disabled baby and had a drug problem in high school.

After a lengthy investigation the government has discovered that alot of the girls at suduction are really depressed about their lives and want to infect people with genital warts on purpose. They are targeting people who got lucky, rich people, people who conceived disabled children, people who escaped criminal conviction or a combination of everything.

Do not go to suduction spa. The owner has filled her business with moderate skitzophrenics who are infecting people with gential warts on purpose becused they are really depressed about their lives and really hate people who got lucky. If you've never had an encounter with a moderate skitzophrenic let me tell you their behavior is absurd and totally ridiculous. They will arive at conclusions with out enough evidence. When you ask them to explain why they made the decision they made their explanation doesn't make any sense at all. The moderate skitzophrenic is the most common type of person to hurt some one out in the public on purpose because they are really mad about their mental illness and really jealous and hatefull towards people who are doing better. These kind of people just bearly deserve their freedom. They have to live in group home's which are called half way houses in America. They have to live there because they can't remember how to cook or work.

Lauren and Stephanie infected me with coliflour and black bump genital warts on purpose. They told me after they serviced me. They said it was because I conceived a disabled baby and had a drug problem in high school.

I told the moderate skitzophrenic girls who work at suduction spa about how my girlfriend didn't quit smoking weed when she was pregnant because a professional called a midwife told her smoking weed while pregnant was safe and wouldn't hurt our baby. I told them how I made a bunch of phone calls to the doctors, children's aid and police desperately trying to find a way to save my baby. Since there wasn't a law the government could use to stop my pregnant girl from smoking weed she never stoped and my child was born with severe autism and needs to live in the hospital for the rest of his life. This made the girls at suduction really mad and filled with hate towards me. They hated on me alot because I created someone like them. They didn't beleive my midwife story. I offered proof. Since they're moderate skitzophrenics they were unable to think straight which caused them to refuse to take my proof saying it's some kind of trick and assumed I was lying about the midwife. They declared me a really bad guy who deserves life in jail for conciving my disabled baby. They told me I don't deserve to have sex with a girl for the rest of my life and that I deserve genital warts for creating my disabled baby. They said if the midwife story was true then I didn't deserve life in jail or genital warts.

They also hated on me really badly because I fell victim to the drug problem in the high-school's back in the early 2000's. Some provincal conservative mpp lied to them and told them there wasn't a drug problem in the highscool's back then and that I was one of the only drug addict kids in the province. This made the girl's at suduction really mad at me and hate on me alot. They said very hateful and mean things to me and said I deserve genital warts for being a drug addict in high school. They also said that if there really was a drug problem in the high school's then I wouldn't deserve genital warts.

I am the heir to half a million dollars. This made the girls at suduction really mad and full of hate towards me. They hated on me alot because they didn't believe I deserve the money because I conceived and disabled baby and had a drug problem in high school. They said I deserve genital warts for getting so lucky after being a bad person.

The most absurd thing about all this is that they wouldn't beleive I deserved genital warts if my story was true and it ended up being true. The cops, children's aid and my trustee proved my story to the girls at sudction and they changed their opinion of me and said they don't I beleive deserve It to genital warts any more or deserve life in jail and they say they didn't give me genital warts on purpose

My accusations of Stephanie and Lauren caused Stephanie's group home to search her phone. If she refused she would have to live on her own which she is not capable of. She got caught with hundreds of text messages talking about infecting people with genital warts on purpose. Most of the unvaccinated people she wants to give genital warts to have it now. She's infected 40 people with gential warts on purpose. Some of them are only 20 years old. Some of them are rich and older. Some of them are drug addicts. The government has her on 95% to a conviction for infecting me with genital warts on purpose and 75% on like 40 other people. The government in this country will not convict some one with infecting someone with genital warts on purpose unless they admit their guilty. I've been told by the government that a admission of guilt is not required in America and in most countries and that Stephanie would have been convicted and sent to jail for infecting me with gential warts on purpose in most countires. Since Stephanie lives in a group home she can be sentenced to group home confinement. In order to get sentenced to group home confinement a crimal judge needs to find her guilty at 80%. Since she is guilty at 95% she has been sentenced by a criminal court judge to 3 years confinement. Group home confinement is where she is not allowed to leave her room in her group home except for work and 1 hour a month to do what ever she wants. They make it as much like jail as possible. She is locked in her room and not allowed to leave unless she wants to leave the group home system and live on her own. Since she really needs her group home she is determined to serve her sentence.

Lauren lives on her own so the government was not able to search her phone or punish her in any way.

I am so incredibly depressed about my multiple hpv infection. I lost my girlfriend who got my warts, I lost my kid who I love so much and I lost my home. I bought a love doll which is actually not bad. I'd recommend you try it instead of paying a bunch of really bad girls for sex.

For more proof contact Greg my trustee at hgk partners llp 905 528 1439

 

[Bustanut]

First, I want to say we've been pretty lucky in terms of room fees. For the most part, they haven't changed in close to 10 years (maybe more).

However, I have noticed tip amounts creeping higher. Customers have been paying more these days resulting in the girls expecting more.

Below is my take on the tip amounts (note: this is for semi-legit spas and is only the tips, room fees are extra, I'm assuming a 1hr session).

• Massage Only - $20
• Basic HJ, maybe some light outside touching - $40-50
• Basic HJ and topless - $50-60
• Completely nude while standing up - $70
• Nude Reverse (MPA gets naked and lets you massage her while she's lying down) - $80
• Basic body slide (MPA gets naked and slides her body against yours) - $80-90
• "Enhanced" body slide (same as above but may include some nice extras like Daty, DFK, Pussy Slide) - $90-100
• BS + BBBJ (I know we're talking semi-legit but I find this is becoming more prevalent) - $100-110
• BJ + FS (in case things get this far) - $130-$150

Thoughts? Do you guys agree?

Take the anonymous poll at the top!

For massage only I’ve tipped 60 on top of the 1hr room fee. This is because the girl’s massage was exceptional. The rest of the numbers are aligned with today’s rates imo.

 

[TheIronMan]

I’m not a new guy. I’m well known at most of the spas in Markham and Richmondhill. I’m just very discrete. Also if you want a proper massage why not go to an actual RMT? I actually get both types of massages and it’s not even close in terms of quality. These MPA’s are still on the hoe spectrum. They are not your girlfriends. You are paying them for a service.

 

[Lalallala]

I’m not a new guy. I’m well known at most of the spas in Markham and Richmondhill. I’m just very discrete. Also if you want a proper massage why not go to an actual RMT? I actually get both types of massages and it’s not even close in terms of quality. These MPA’s are still on the hoe spectrum. They are not your girlfriends. You are paying them for a service.

There is so much crap here, it’s hard to figure out where to begin.

First off, how are you well known if you are discrete?

Secondly, the MPAs are providing a service that you want - why are you denigrating them? Shouldn’t you also be calling yourself some derogatory names as well? Or are you just some sort of misogynist? Pretty much a vast majority of the MPAs I have met work very hard at their job. There are always exceptions of course but by and large, they are hard working. Then again, it could just be a selection bias that I have.

Third, you didn’t even notice the fact that there is much different styles in how a holistic spa session works versus a semi. If you can’t appreciate the difference between wham-bam-thank-you-maam service versus a longer drawn out session, I feel sorry for any future partners (of any species) that you may have.

Lastly, you say you aren’t new but then threads like you exclaiming how you managed to get fs at a semi legit spa is pretty telling. Those that do typically don’t say they do. And it’s very much a YMMV sort of thing. I am a relative newb in this scene, and all I can say is that in the past 5 months or so, I’ve had more better sex in semis than I have had in holistic spas.

 

[I am here for you]

Hahah that’s great. I don’t know.. I kept thinking that this is still much cheaper than actually dating

ETA: one of my favs actually told me to spend less on her. She said she will take it if I give it to her but she’s ok with much less too.

The smart ladies want regularly so they don't soak you ,the greedy ones starve and move all the time
Same goes for poor promoter
Og,daredevil, ambler, Jimmy etc

 

[2percent]

How would you treat a 2 hr session? 2X the opening post?

 

[BS4ME]

Anyone ever leave accidentally without paying? Lol

 

[luvdafurburger]

There is so much crap here, it’s hard to figure out where to begin.

First off, how are you well known if you are discrete?

Secondly, the MPAs are providing a service that you want - why are you denigrating them? Shouldn’t you also be calling yourself some derogatory names as well? Or are you just some sort of misogynist? Pretty much a vast majority of the MPAs I have met work very hard at their job. There are always exceptions of course but by and large, they are hard working. Then again, it could just be a selection bias that I have.

Third, you didn’t even notice the fact that there is much different styles in how a holistic spa session works versus a semi. If you can’t appreciate the difference between wham-bam-thank-you-maam service versus a longer drawn out session, I feel sorry for any future partners (of any species) that you may have.

Lastly, you say you aren’t new but then threads like you exclaiming how you managed to get fs at a semi legit spa is pretty telling. Those that do typically don’t say they do. And it’s very much a YMMV sort of thing. I am a relative newb in this scene, and all I can say is that in the past 5 months or so, I’ve had more better sex in semis than I have had in holistic spas.

"of any species" lol

You're 100% right but some guys have a need to feel superior to others so they brag. He doesn't have a monopoly on it here.

It's a fragile ego thing

 

[SpringRoll]

"of any species" lol

You're 100% right but some guys have a need to feel superior to others so they brag. He doesn't have a monopoly on it here.

It's a fragile ego thing

It’s a bit weird bragging on an anonymous sex forum. Lala’s a good guy, he really laid into him.

 

[OG_funguy]

Anyone ever leave accidentally without paying? Lol

I have, like twice. Both times were with close faves and both times the girls were too embarrassed to say anything. Thank goodness I remembered when I got to the car...so I went back in to give them the money. Of course they are like "oh honey, you are like good friend, don't worry about the money" lol...

 

[BS4ME]

I have, like twice. Both times were with close faves and both times the girls were too embarrassed to say anything. Thank goodness I remembered when I got to the car...so I went back in to give them the money. Of course they are like "oh honey, you are like good friend, don't worry about the money" lol...

Feels like you just left the GF's house lol.

I still gotta go back to one place....haven't had the time. I still owe her lol.

 

[OG_funguy]

Feels like you just left the GF's house lol.

I still gotta go back to one place....haven't had the time. I still owe her lol.

Who remembered first lol?