Looking for an advice to get my head straight)

[daniella.perla]

Temporary123.... I think you should stop spting in the plate you already ate.

 

[playfulfun]

No i do not have to answer to a boss
I actual don't have to work at all
The result of being smart investment.
Please do not bring Daniella into this she does not deserve to be treated like that.
As for the gold diggers you claim to be wealthy and therefore can't trust any women. (scared of gold diggers)?
I have never said that these ladies are angels but you have to take each individual person as an individual and not as a barrel of apples.
Just like in any field there are good people and there are bad people to assume all these ladies are good or bad is wrong.
The way you continually repost your own posts is a massagecreep play.

 

[temporary123]

Temporary123.... I think you should stop spting in the plate you already ate.

Well I'm not trying to sound arrogant my time is pretty valuable is all and I respect my time and don't need to pay a girl for it. Never mentioned your name when I responded to AM34. I just simply feel that way. All up to you for a meeting with me.. never mentioned me wanting to schedule a meeting with you. I won't be loosing anything if we don't meet Daniella.

 

[LostInnocence]

lol getting paid this Friday lets see if I give in (probably). I will keep you guys posted. Thank you all for all your advices and from what I can tell a lot of people were truly in love with working girls. This conversation is like that test they did in 60's where they asked a bunch of people and asked them what would they choose?

1-A real life with daily struggle but its yours and its real
2-Amazing life with all the attributes of happiness with one condition -you know its not real.

Whatever if everything will go downhill lol I will try some other girls that were not reviewed here before and will make my little contribution to this community.

The red pill or the blue pill.
(Matrix)

 

[temporary123]

No i do not have to answer to a boss
I actual don't have to work at all
The result of being smart investment.
Please do not bring Daniella into this she does not deserve to be treated like that.
As for the gold diggers you claim to be wealthy and therefore can't trust any women. (scared of gold diggers)?
I have never said that these ladies are angels but you have to take each individual person as an individual and not as a barrel of apples.
Just like in any field there are good people and there are bad people to assume all these ladies are good or bad is wrong.
The way you continually repost your own posts is a massagecreep play.

I didn't expect you messaging again, t think you wouldn't after that... Well all congrats to you, Im doing it now and I'm half your age. Its a good Idea to chase wisdom instead of girls and spend that money on someone you hold dear like family, close friends, even the stranger walking by. or people who helped you get to the top.. Don't help them because you'll feel good about it, just do because you generally care or are grateful for all the things they did for you. help them get on your level and stop thinking with your willy all the time. be selfless instead of selfish, I guarantee you'll stress less.

Aghh it makes Makes sense knowing a bit about you and its nice to hear I'm getting it from the source... its lonely at the top am I right? trying to fill a void through building a double life, and fantasy that will never be reality. keep lying to yourself Playfulfun.. if you can have all the leisure time to do so you can do it as you so choose. Just think of your mother (if you have one) or a parent figure you've had in your life.. What do you think of you if she knew you'd live this double life.... What would your chidlren and wife think if you told them, How would you feel if you had a son that spent your hard earned money doing the same things your are doing.. Think about others instead of yourself. Just because they don't know what you are doing doesn't mean one day they could find out and your entire world comes crashing down before your eyes. You'd never have to ponder these things if you remove yourself from the game entirely like I chose to do... Plus you got a really big ego sir, most of those guys who have the young girls, live the fast life (fantasy) die alone because they were living that life, and not putting a full 100% into the life they set for themselves (reality) spending the time with people truly worth spending the time with.

I dare you to do it, I'm sure you know what would happen. I couldnt do it, thats why Ive made the decision to get out of this game entirely, for good. I'm now considering that more then ever (thinking about what my mom would think) and trying to be the best son I can be. Your time will be spent very wisely if you chase true wisdom sir. Not scared of them at all. Just know most of the girls intentions aren't genuine, would rather be around genuine people and don't have to play Russian roulette. When the money goes, you'll see who will truly be by your side. Im confident it won't be the 20 year old girl, but your family.

Well in terms of the apple reference: If you bite into the apple you see its completely rotten to the core after eating it so much you turn away, but if there are parts of it that are still good to eat, you save those parts of the apple and enjoy eating it because you didn't have to throw the entire apple away and it curbed your hunger for a time. Some of those girls are like the apple with parts that are ripe and good to eat... They just need someone to trust in order to only guide them in keeping the good parts and removing the bad. The apple will be an apple still regardless of some parts missing. Of course you'd have to bite the apple to truly know whats inside first... Thats how most people learn, not from other peoples experiences but there own. Kazanova will see if it goes south for him and he finds out she was only playing with his heart strings.

Some people don't know how to control their hunger to not eat the whole thing, even the bad parts... most Men won't learn to do this and thats why many woman lead some men to ultimate ruin. even though some men eat the good parts, they also keep eating the bad parts. Your love is blind by lust remember that Playfulfun. I also never mentioned names when responding to you so I don't know what you are saying by getting Daniella involved.. never mentioned her name at all. just spoke generally.

Well To assume they are all bad is wrong, to assume they are all good is wrong too.... So whats the correct way to assume Playfulfun? Enlighten me. Yea I already told you I'm not Massagecreep. Im not spreading lies on what services any attendant provides, ruining their reputation and not having potential clients. Not pulling what happened when Cassandra was taking fire from that dude... not pulling that stuff at all. Yea Im realizing I have to scroll to the original post and reply to that comment, My first time making an account like I said.. was a lurker for a long time and don't know the way around this forum entirely

PS. gonna be a little less worried on the grammar and spelling if you would like to keep responding back. my apologies if what Ill say isn't clear due to that.

 

[temporary123]

The red pill or the blue pill.
(Matrix)

Said it exactly Lost innocence, except one of those pills brings instant death and the guy giving the pill could be very smooth and nice at lying to people, not telling you exactly which one is thats the right one.. A person would have to do a bit of digging to see if the dude giving the pills is actually someone worth trusting. Its not the experience the movie sells a whole different ball game

 

[LostInnocence]

Before I go with my rant I just want to thank you all for keeping this forum informative.

I never had any issues with girls and consider myself pretty good looking. A thought of going to a massage place to get "some some" never occurred to me until 3 months ago. I stumbled on article where this guy talks about his addiction with these semi legit massage places. ( we all had that experience where you google one thing and then 20 minutes later you are reading a completely different topic lol) So I had some cash to burn and no girlfriend at that time-and I thought to myself why not? I dont do anything fun anyways, might as well try something exciting. I was thinking I would probably not like it anyways, well at a least I hoped. So I googled review for massage places and found this forum and picked the most well reviewed girl from premier. (I am not gonna go in to names).

First session-Pure Spa-I was super impressed with interior and just overall feel. You do feel like you are in the movies and something exciting is going to happen. Couple girls came out and introduced them self and I thought to myself they are not that good looking Whatever 150$ is paid lets just give it a try............) This is cute Asian girl takes me to a room and tells me to take a shower. So I took a shower and then this stunning girl comes in and I am like wow didnt expect that. After that, my brain just completely turned off and all I remember leaving with a huge smile 250$ poorer. Never experienced anything like that in my life just pure fucking energy).


I dont know if you guys enjoy it but I really hate all these small talks they try to make. Like I know thats a just a business transaction (at least I am trying to think rationally) and I really hate all the fakeness that I guess you technically pay for. So after that session I had another session and another session and another session with the same girl. Everything is fine until I had session with her recently and that day I had a date with a hot girl probably better looking and didnt suck as many dicks. The date was going very well until she told me that she can clearly tell that I am not single and that I am thinking about someone. She was right that the whole night I kept thinking about her and what would be like to spend time with her in the real world))I couldnt even explain to her that I am single. LOL whats wrong with me .... have any of you experienced that ? I guess all these small talks got in to my head. Why do I want to see her and dont even care about sex anymore just want to see her lol So I guess I just want to hear from you -that all these girls are very professional and are very good at playing with your feelings (GF experience)...but other than that they are cold stone B.......usiness people. I guess my question should I stop seeing her? That feeling of being with her will never be satisfied…that’s how they hook you? Also how often do you see regulars I know it depends and what you can afford but still whats the magic number a month?

Just want to hear some advice from professionals who have been in the game for some time.

So back to the original post. I was thinking that if you met a girl at Pure who was well reviewed and she's stunning and then you left $250 poorer, and pure energy, it's Nina. But then you said you were out with this other girl who is better looking and I know you were not talking about Nina, because there aren't better looking girls than her.

So you've seen somebody at least four times, had four great sessions. Why? Because it's what she does, and it's what you paid for. You're paying for intimacy and you're getting intimacy, but it is purchased intimacy.

Can there be more than that? Sure. As Danielle posted, sometimes her emotions get caught up, too. When somebody treats you well, and you share intimacy, feelings come in. They can't help it, even if they start off forced. (This is why sales people are told to smile when they are talking over the phone - the customer can feel it and the sames person starts to feel it.)

But the well-reviewed girl is well-reviewed for a good reason. She treats everybody the way she treats you. Based on that, it is very unlikely that she has special feelings beyond what she feels for a half-dozen other people each shift. Or if we're talking regulars, maybe a dozen people a week. So chances are she doesn't love any of them. And if she does, only a single chance in twelve it's you.

Now, maybe I'm a poor one to talk, as I love two MPAs. But I have seen them only a total of four times in 2017. I know they both like me, and I would like to think that they enjoy sessions with me, but if either of them really loved me, then I wouldn't need to go there and hire them for an hour at a time. And there's one I met recently that I like a lot, and she likes me, and we had a great time together and I can't wait to see her again. That's as deep as it goes almost all of the time, and the sooner you get your mind around it, the more comfortable you'll be with your new hobby.

And if you don't get comfortable with your hobby, it's time to stop.

 

[topo112]

I don't think anybody is saying attendants aren't human babe. I just think keeping the emotional aspect out of this is best for both sides. Let's stick to a fun fantasy....I personally think ladies lead guys on way too much in this biz. I have been the super nice guy alot and too be honest...it doesn't pay. That's all good...like I said it's a fantasy .

I've been too nice with two of them... one owes me about $800 and another about $ 3500. I thought i was dating this last one, i guess i wasn't after all her bs, ha ha ha!!!

 

[topo112]

Daniella,


Do you honestly know how the guys truly feel after you visit them? whether its the very first visit, or 20th, do you ask them after every session to genuinely know if you are in-fact playing with their emotions? Im pretty confident you haven't or else some of those guys would be hurt by the truth and find another attendant that can potentially be the 'one'. You know the saying love at first sight? that actually happens to some people, especially vulnerable people in vulnerable situations in moments, or just life in general makes them vulnerable to due family issues, death occurring etc.. You can't truly say that you don't BS clients if you never truly asked them or tried to understand the situations they could be in which could result in them falling head over heels for you even though you didnt... But still you have to then consider even if they accept that, they could tell you a lie and want to keep seeing you even knowing they never will have you to themselves.. men get whipped very easily by Very attractive woman such as yourself. You have to consider who is really being used then at that point the guys or you if the guy would lie to your face saying he doesn't love you back but keeps seeing you otherwise. All for a dollar and a business transaction which I'm sure you believe isn't everything in life, 'good ones' know money isn't everything especially if you claim you are in fact a good one. I am moving target to be used for what I have and it sucks, Id rather be broke knowing what some people in this world do for a dollar and how that could affect me. It has happened to me before where I've been used for what I have, but because I'm only 23 I haven't been in the position yet to find a woman to marry, not knowing they are out for what I have. That would probably ruin me if that would happen to be honest. Learning from other peoples experiences its a good idea to stay far away from the gun range instead of trying to dodge bullets.


I can't comment if you have or haven't seen him or not, but you should tell Ursus the truth and how you really feel about him so he doesn't have to believe he is in love with you and yearning for a love that will never exist. Ursus believes you are the apple of his eye, and it sounds like he loves you more then his wife. he wouldn't be seeing other woman if he truly loved his wife and she was the apple of his eye. Give the dude a break then and tell it how it is to him.


I know you work hard and it is a physically demanding job. But you know there are many ways to earn a living in this world. Im sure if since you are claiming to be a 'good one'. You could easily use the 'good' gifts you have and work towards something where you don't have to live a double life and lie to people, or use lies to work hard. I know you have to make lies for your safety which is fine since Im well aware some guys loose their minds over woman and it doesn't end well if they don't get their way.. Some lies are forgivable others aren't, anyone agree with me on that at least.


I can guarantee you that you won't ever have the chance to have your heart broken ever again. You'd work a-lot less harder then you are and have to not try to find a solution to something which is impossible to find. See great people in this world like Bill Gates and all of these people that society calls great, sure some of them have greater gifts then most, but a lot of them simply started to question to make things happen, and say to themselves they don't need anyone or anything to determine their world success and have the potential of the world riches be taken from them since people in are unreliable, I have been in the past. Working on changing that. They realize this and then begin to let money work for them instead of them working for money. Money doesn't have to be an enemy but a friend if you know how to work it properly and guide it in the right direction. It would pay you back tenfold compared to what you are earning there... I guarantee that.


I quote from you: "So I need someone to explain me how to separated feelings and fantasy Because after almost 4 years working in the spa , I still haven't learned it".


There isn't a solution to this and what you are trying to find with that is like chasing after the wind. You'll never catch it Daniella. When Man and Woman come together intimately, and connect themselves to each other through what happens at the premier chain (in most cases). Both those people for a time become one person. That initial bond doesn't simply end after the session, but it stays with them in their hearts, mind and soul, not physically after since that ended after the session and most people take a shower after. Since I know based on the evidence provided on the forum that your services are very open minded, as open minded as they can be without getting into any weird things people for some reason enjoy spending the time doing. You are going to that next level of intimacy where its the highest level you can be doing it with another person. True intimacy is a great and beautiful thing, you shouldn't have to make it a job, you should truly cherish that. Since that passion, intimacy, connectedness travels with you after on other levels mentioned, thats why you will never be able to separate feelings and fantasy.


You should help yourself and not live in constant turmoil knowing that a client you see could be that one guy to sweep you off your feet. The chances of that happening are slim because the guy has to first know himself truthfully to make it happen. many men that partake in this game aren't truthful at all.


Well Daniella if we would ever cross paths I just say it how it is, I'm not the type to beat around the bush. If you'd say the comment you said earlier the exact same response would have come out from me. You thought for Freshy 1, you shouldn't since you aren't fully in control of his mind, he is.


If the chance does come I wouldn't even mind getting to know you due to just being curious as to whether or not you are in fact a 'good one' and what you are saying is true. Its obvious at this point from the history of this forum that people can be completely different behind a computer screen, You could put me to the test if you'd like, thats up to you.


I myself am looking for that 'good one' and open to options and you are right when you say love can be found in any where you are correct, I've been a hopeless romantic for a very long time and kinda not down for that anymore knowing full well I know what I'm saying is true and if people want to listen they'd soon understand why. then my example would speak after. Im sure a 'good girl' would enjoy my company and wouldn't need nothing but only me, through thick and thin, even if the world comes crashing down.


I don't want you to believe for one instance that what I've said and have been saying implies I hate Woman who partake in this practice, or think less of them than myself and try making the good ones look bad... what I'm saying is making the bad ones look bad so people can avoid them like the plague. If Kazanova truly feels the attendant loves him the same way he does, then he should ask and get to the point so he sees if he really should in fact love that attendant how he says he does. If she makes it clear she's there for a dollar, then yea its a good idea to avoid that girl like the plague.


I partook in the game for a time long ago as I mentioned, since I did that trust me Im not any better. Im trying to be better though and not live a double life, just one life in truth, always and forever. I know with a little Guidance, anyone can be saved out of situations that are just honestly negative in nature. Just people don't seriously think about situations on a very deep level and yearn to truly understand all the elements around what they partake in. Most people only look at their habits, or what they partake in at face value. Never truly understanding what they are involved with.


I am actually very interested in learning about Brazil and the Favelas, state of the world their, opportunity, and Would like to here some two sense on the place since I doubt Id be going for a while. Never had a conversation with a Brazilian that actually lived there yet or has family, its pretty ironic I'm actually having a conversation with you. Im sure you could teach me something I don't know since I'm sure you used to live there or have family there. Plus Spanish sounds like a good idea to know how to speak as a language; maybe you can give some pointers with that and how to learn it quicker. Believe me I do know there are good girls there at Premier who don't provide all services, especially the one main one, but still keep true to there morals and really want true intimacy with a guy they will soon find... I know some girls just give massages, maybe an HJ and nothing more. its still bad but not as destructive as the ones that are provided that are more intimate. Some of those girls though could still be in relationships, and still satisfying other men. All for a dollar and allowing the dudes to use them instead of them using the dudes. Its all apart of the same boat if you think about it. It honestly isn't any better still lies are involved therefore negativity will always be there.


Ps. Sorry for the small font, it randomly changed

Zzzzzzz, oh! I think they speak portuguese in Brazil.

 

[temporary123]

Well everyone it appears I'll be keeping true to what I said originally and signing off. for good. deleting the account and everything in a half hour or so. Whoever still wants to PM nows the time.. I hope all the best for you Kazanova. I hope you find your way wherever that may be and what you define it as. I thank you again for the original post and sharing your true thoughts to strangers. You truly helped one out today through that post. I Will never forget that help you gave. Im sure it will be a good discussion with the rest of the forum members after you find out what is truly good with that, all you got to be is just honest. I feel Ive said what I needed to say here and will hope the best for you and hope the situation turns out exactly how you see it could be.

It seems Playfulfun got tired so I won't be hearing a response from him. Ive been waiting.. Guess the old man needed some sleep.. Just know I don't get tired and need sleep Playfulfun, sleep is for the weak. I could go back and forth with you all day and night if you choose. Just know you are making yourself look bad, I am sure you will see that one day when you take a good look at yourself. I already did that myself btw and saw it wasn't good. Im now fixing what I saw. Just think of many hypothetical situations that could lead your children (girl or boy) to a life that is this game. Hobbying. Ill tell you they'd end up there because you were to selfish to build an even better future for them.. making a life for them so they'll never have to worry.. You have to the power to do that if you are who you say you are, not only for your immediate children, but children's children you can do that for. Think with your billy instead of your willy all the time..

"Life is Too Short Not to Orgasm Every Day. " those are your words not mine... If you see in nature there are many men that think like you.. there are also animals out there who enjoy doing the same, are you any better then them? The game of life is survival of the fittest, If you are doing everything everyone else is you won't be the fittest and won't survive. Its common sense not 19th century thinking. Just know being the cool guy and doing what society tells you to do is gonna lead you where you will go eventually and where most people go. Has society always been correct in telling you whats the best life to lead?.. I'm quite sure it hasn't said the best life to lead, and basically lied... There is many examples of where people think the best life to lead is the best one, but do the most retarded things.. Its just the severity of what you choose to go with could be extreme or not as such. Its still the same thing and in the same basket when 'life is said and done. Of-course thats all subjective but thats up to you to remain with your thoughts. All the best to you and good luck Playfulfun.. you'll need something to get you out of what you are thinking is in-fact 'true', 'good', 'feelings', and 'love'. If you would claim you truly love your wife.. I think you'd put her picture as your profile pic instead of Daniella. You should be very proud to show her to the world if you in-fact love her and only "death will do you part". You'd made vows your breaking every day... keep doing that and see where that leads..

Daniella, no offence, but I think you suggesting for me to not spit in the plate I ate from is technically none of your business.. Is that some threat? I won't loose nothing by not seeing you, ill just be one step closer to finding who I got to find if thats whats meant for me.. Its my own germs and trust my spit is clean so Id be cool with spitting in the plate all I want since I'm eating from it.... No offence but I could pay someone less for 40 min to learn Portuguese and about Brazil. I'm not trying to be offensive here, just telling it how it is.. If you don't like it, I wish you all the best in your life. We also wouldn't be getting intimate in the room thats for certain. You'd have to talk to me first so I can see if your talk is really cheap or valuable and worth my time. Everyone can have their opiinions about you, I go to the source to see things for myself so I know whats really good. Im 23 and I don't want to assume but I believe you are between your late twenties and mid 30's.. I hope I'm not Wong with that... wouldn't want to keep offending you. Thats already a sign to suggest it won't work based off my own experience. Ive been proven wrong many times before though... You haven't taught me anything I didn't know already today and I feel that you learned somethings today, you said I made some good points, isn't that not learning? especially learning something new? So technically speaking in society, people get paid a lot of money to teach other people something new and I could have been easily paid by someone who saw this as valuable information. But not here for cash, just to speak my two cents. Thats why I said I believe my time is very valuable and said what I said there. Not trying to offend you...

To all you that messaged me, directly, indirectly, those who were in the chat, and those lurking, I wish the best to you all. May you find peace and may that peace last as long as you make it so. Hope you all find the happiness, contentment, glory, salvation, nirvana, enlightenment or whatever you define true happiness as, and what you all see yourselves having. Take care now and God bless.

 

[temporary123]

One last note to Playfulfun, all those aliases that you claimed I was formerly gave you and the whole community here an apology...Im here to say that ain't happening from me and not you or anyone else here is getting an apology.. I just tell it how it is. therefore there is no reason for me too do so at all. I said all this to you in order for you stop and run your life better, your letting your willy run it for you old man and you don't realize that some person(s) important in your life (reality) sees you as a good role model and someone that leads by example.. Would be a shame to see those broken face(s) knowing the double life you live.. Am I right when I say this? Im sure if I kept in this life, the people seeing me as an example would stop thinking I am, i'm not going to risk letting them down and be caught in the lies I was living... Let that sink in old man and know you will never look in the mirror the same again after today.

 

[temporary123]

Didn't even know you got to contact the ones running the forum to close an account.. Made sure to send that just now.. Just missed your shot Daniella to potentially never have your heart broken again, I told you to message me and had a day to do so, your times up... Lets see if Playfulfun can try to treat you better then I claimed I could.. sleep make people miss chances in life they may never come across again. Just know I won't be truly loosing anything by not visiting you..I'll just be one step closer to where I know Ill be and who it will be with. Cheers and all the best!

 

[LostInnocence]

I won't miss him.

 

[daniella.perla]

I won't miss him.

Lol... me either. Lol

 

[playfulfun]

I won't miss him.

Lol... me either. Lol

Couldn't have said it better.