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For those of us that do this on a daily basis what has been some of the withdrawal symptoms that you have been experiencing?

I would assume that they would be somewhat different from substance abuse withdrawal symptoms because this is more of an activity based dependence.

From what I've studied in Biology and Psychology this type of activity which we call "hobbying" is sort of like playing an online video game in that waiting in the "lobby" of a video game anticipating the upcoming game can cause surges in dopamine and similarly, waiting for the MPA, induces a dopamine rush in anticipation of sexual gratification (note that this only applies to individuals that have habituated to the nervousness of waiting for an MPA for the first few times and have instead substituted nervousness for anticipation). Now where hobbying seems to differ from other activities is things like video games or other forms of activities that can lead to dependence is that instead of very frequent dopamine "hits" that person can become dependant on constant sexual gratification.

When it comes to video games, some of the withdrawal symptoms can include irritability, anxiety, boredom, cravings and sadness.

But what intrigues my interest is while a lot of activity-based addictions tend to have similar dopamine and serotonin response levels I was curious to know what the removal of these pleasure responses but in addition to the removal of daily (or multiple times a day) sexual gratification would impact the severity of these withdrawal symptoms or completely alter them from typical activity based dependence withdrawal symptoms.

Personally apart from cravings which on its own cannot constitute a withdrawal, I have not really experienced much else. I used to "think" about the MPAs I visited practically daily because I visit them about 2 times a month. My last visit was on February 22nd and I've only been doing this Hobby for around 11 months so my mind has been able to pretty much substitute these thoughts with others. Last time I thought about my most recent MPA (Vanessa from Perla) was about 2 weeks ago and again today which is why this sparked an interest for me. It appears that while I did initially experience cravings, I did not develop a dependence (yet at least) for hobbying.

I think this will also help others in this forum understand what they can expect if they do end up developing a dependence for hobbying. If someone doesn't have withdrawal symptoms yet but may experience them later please come back to this thread in the future and share your experiences.
 
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It varies for everyone.

Going to mpa became a weekly habit for me. I think its just the sense of adventure and having someone jerk me off jus turned me on....

Right now im taking it easy and safe. Some days r hard for sure but i will never use Leolist (due to many past horrible experiences)

For now just focusing on work and doing pushups
 
It is definitely frustrating, but my business has taken a huge hit so I have bigger problems. If someone I care for suffers or dies from the pandemic then the break from hobbying will not seem like any kind of a loss. And the pandemic may mean that it will be a long time, years perhaps, before kissing, DATY, BBBJ (the things I really enjoy) become available again, or are relatively safe to engage in. I am starting to think that that part of my life is over. Here is hoping that a whole new technology comes out of this crisis that can effectively deal with this and future viruses.
 
sadly we will see more and more outbreaks in the future due to the way human consumes resources and viruses mutate.
 
sadly we will see more and more outbreaks in the future due to the way human consumes resources and viruses mutate.
Actuaries have been aware for a long time that there is a whole bunch of nasty stuff waiting in the wings. The best thing to come out of this pandemic will be systemic world-wide containment and management of future pandemics.
 
It is definitely frustrating, but my business has taken a huge hit so I have bigger problems. If someone I care for suffers or dies from the pandemic then the break from hobbying will not seem like any kind of a loss. And the pandemic may mean that it will be a long time, years perhaps, before kissing, DATY, BBBJ (the things I really enjoy) become available again, or are relatively safe to engage in. I am starting to think that that part of my life is over. Here is hoping that a whole new technology comes out of this crisis that can effectively deal with this and future viruses.
I'm sorry your taking a business hit. Hope you can recover any loss over time. :)

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Not sure how I can walk in a spa for awhile and see a random girl who saw 5 dudes before. Even if I'm not kissing her we are breathing the same air and getting close. I could catch the virus and not even know it. Along with did he the client before me cough and sneezes before I got there? There are studies about it being airborne for awhile up to 3 hours, while some studies say it's not airborne.

We are in uncharted waters in this time
 
I have been going to MP's for over 26 years
Truly miss it.
longest time I have ever been away fromit.
Find myself dreaming of women I have been with recently and even many years ago.
Still remember my first time with Cindy at flirt when its name wasn't flirt and it was as allen rd and sheppard.
FS was standard back then and this was her first week on the job.
After receiving BBBJ she ran out of the room to get a condom
Her hands were actually trembling as she tore open the condom wrapper .

Great memories
miss it all
 
When the fuck are they going to have talking Fleshlights ? If they can make Teddy Bears and Dolls talk they should be able to make it say ....... "Wow big cock" ... and...... "You are the only one I do this with" .... "Come for me baby, gimme the load" , etc.
 
Not sure how I can walk in a spa for awhile and see a random girl who saw 5 dudes before. Even if I'm not kissing her we are breathing the same air and getting close. I could catch the virus and not even know it. Along with did he the client before me cough and sneezes before I got there? There are studies about it being airborne for awhile up to 3 hours, while some studies say it's not airborne.

We are in uncharted waters in this time
you better start working at home, plant your own garden for veggies and open your own farm. You never know the delivery person or colleague sitting in the cubicle beside carry the virus or not.
 
When the fuck are they going to have talking Fleshlights ? If they can make Teddy Bears and Dolls talk they should be able to make it say ....... "Wow big cock" ... and...... "You are the only one I do this with" .... "Come for me baby, gimme the load" , etc.
You want the bear from the movie TED eh?
 
Put down the beer goggles. That usually does the trick.
What if beer didnโ€™t do the trick in the past?

โ€œAbstinence makes the heart grow fonder or it makes the dick grow harderโ€ PJ circa 2020
 
Not sure how I can walk in a spa for awhile and see a random girl who saw 5 dudes before. Even if I'm not kissing her we are breathing the same air and getting close. I could catch the virus and not even know it. Along with did he the client before me cough and sneezes before I got there? There are studies about it being airborne for awhile up to 3 hours, while some studies say it's not airborne.

We are in uncharted waters in this time

...new gf, new MPA... always exposed 2 new germs...

...fuck new hot girl, so happy... lil cold sore in morning... best not to think 2 much...

...4 most of us, COVID-19 = mild illness or nothing.... but life altering 4 unlucky few...

...so random girl saw 5 previous dudes... that bothers you? Wrong hobby. Worried about COVID-19? Lotsa worse things 2 catch...

...but being disease vector, spreading it around... donโ€™t wanna b that guy... so yeah, friggn quarantine 4 now...

...when social isol. ends, prolly still COVID-19 around, but rarer... gonna see MPA, & I hope sheโ€™s seen lotsa guys b4 me... & makes me feel like she digs me the most.
 
...new gf, new MPA... always exposed 2 new germs...

...fuck new hot girl, so happy... lil cold sore in morning... best not to think 2 much...

...4 most of us, COVID-19 = mild illness or nothing.... but life altering 4 unlucky few...

...so random girl saw 5 previous dudes... that bothers you? Wrong hobby. Worried about COVID-19? Lotsa worse things 2 catch...

...but being disease vector, spreading it around... donโ€™t wanna b that guy... so yeah, friggn quarantine 4 now...

...when social isol. ends, prolly still COVID-19 around, but rarer... gonna see MPA, & I hope sheโ€™s seen lotsa guys b4 me... & makes me feel like she digs me the most.
Willl head back eventually. Saving alot right now not going. Spas are safer in the sense that it's not leolist you don't get scammed
 
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  32. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  33. ForeverWarden:
    ๐ŸŽ„๐ŸŽ…OPEN TODAY, CHRISTMAS DAY๐ŸŽ…๐ŸŽ„. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups
  34. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. OPEN Christmas!
  35. SugarLoveSpa:
    ๐ŸŽ„๐ŸŽ…YES, WEโ€™RE OPEN TODAY, CHRISTMAS DAY๐ŸŽ…๐ŸŽ„. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LISA & LUCY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LISA is a cute & petite Thai/Chinese mixed beauty with decent massage skills and liberal services. LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available.
  36. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Vivian & Sasa are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„Vivian is a Very Horny & Vivacious Chinese Girl! ๐Ÿ’„Sasa is a Young Pretty Chinese Girl๐Ÿ’‹ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  37. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts wishes all customers a Merry Christmas today๐ŸŽ„๐Ÿง‘โ€๐ŸŽ„We are open as usual today and recommend the best female masseuses to customers, including Yuki from China, Helen from Taiwan, and Jessica from South Korea. We live at 10737 Yonge St Unit 13. Please contact 9052375885 or SMS 4163565876, thank you
  38. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jenny๐Ÿ˜ is a beautiful young part-time student with a very sexy figure and big natural 34D breasts. She can give a great massage and very good open minded service. She knows how to please a man with her natural beauty and charm. S
  39. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Lala and kiki work
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  41. EMSpa_schedule:
    Here's a sneak peek of tomorrow's schedule: For Wednesday December 25, 2024, our attendants will be Sandy โค๏ธ and Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜ Have a great Christmas Eve!! And call us at 905-479-6668 to book tomorrow!
  42. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Chinese Coco, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Sexy Slim Chinese Jasmine and Sexy Chinese Bella
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking
  44. dronerbot:
    Any spa with authentic brown girls?
  45. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธCherry๐ŸŒธLynda Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, MONIKA, SALMA, AMANDA, ANAYA, KIRAN, SARIKA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. BELLA 10AM-2PM: Closing Early on Christmas Eve TODAY December 24, 2pm, AND closed all day Christmas Day December 25. Merry Christmas, everyone!
  48. New spring spa@:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysia ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Coco -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new sexy and slim massage girl Coco exudes elegance and allure, with
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
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