Patronising pain clinic, drugs & jobs!

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Have had a proplapsed L5 for 8 years. Was manageble up until a couple of years ago when the pain moved about a bit and my back has got so painful and tender that at times just the pressure of a cushion makes me want to vomit. Have been on 1 x amiltryptyline for past 2 years which helps, but puts me in a coma for most of the day.

Had a visit to a very patronising and depressing Pain Clinic doc this week who told me I'll never get better if I dont exercise (like I didnt know that) and that at my age (48) I have to expect pain to increase in all areas of my life as "after all I have to die of something". He has told me to take 8 paracetomol, 4 tramadol and a pregabalin a day which seems heck of a lot to me. Havent yet tried the pregabalin but the others are making me really dizzy and wanting to be sick and not helping greatly. Have an epidural injection booked for June and an MRI, but have been told unlikely to help and I am def not considered for surgery. He says I should take the lot and then "grit my teeth and exercise".

This is just bit of a 'get it off my chest' post as only another sufferer of this would have any understanding....
 
Patronising pain clinic, drugs & jobs!

Do you see a chiropractor? Can wholeheartedly recommend finding a good one. If you do go to one then try another, they all seem to work their magic in different ways and have different areas of expertise.

I had severe disc problems about 13 yrs ago, did the physio and exercises at home, and a 'back school' for 6 weeks. I self manage my problems now and see a chiropractor regularly who puts everything back where it should be. I had to train myself to use my body in a different way..... to bend, use the hoover, wash up, stand up.... get out of bed, everything. Muscles switch off when you have chronic back problems and your body stops using them when it moves about, making the problems and pressure on the discs worse. You need to do specific exercises to 'switch' the muscles back on again so your body uses them to hold your posture. For me it took 6 months of consistent work every day, but it did pay off.

There is lots of info on the net about the exercises that you can do to mobilse the joints freeing the nerves, encourage the discs to sit in the correct place, and switch the muscles on that connect the vertebrae together (not forgetting the core muscles). Just 'exercising' isn't going to help unless you are taught how to use your body correctly and target the muscle groups involved in holding posture which are involuntary.

Yoga, pilates and alexander technique are excelllent for improving core strength (Wii fit???). You may find that the exercises cause your back to ache badly the first few times but this will subside as you build the core strength and start using these muscle again, without thinking in your everyday activities.

Hope this helps, and you have an improvement soon!

love, light and Reiki to you!
 
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Have tried Pregabalin and Gabapentin, what a waste of time, all it's given me is problems with my eyes, thanks alot pain management Dr lol, have to go back on 15th April for another consultation, which I know is going to be a waste of time Take care x
 
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I have been to oesteopaths, chiropracters, physios and acupuncturists over the years yet they end up referring me back to the pain clinic so round in circles. Am trying to fix up Pilates.

My head is absolutely swimming from all these drugs so far...!
 
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Have you considered having your disc removed and the spine fused? That may be the best option.
 
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Hi eden.eden

Sorry to hear you have had such a bad experience and are experiencing so much pain. The symptoms you are describing are most likely due to the Tramadol. It is renowned for these side effects. It is unlikely to be the paracetamol.

Pregabalin is supposed to be a cleaner drug than Gabapentin as it is the "next generation" drug developed by the original makers of Gabapentin as a response to the end of their sole licence thingy which would allow the drug to be manufactured as a generic and not solely as a branded one. Big pharma is a nightmare as is the legislation stuff.

Chronic pain management should not be a one size fits all because that is certainly not the case in my experience. Targeted paced exercise can help. The injection may be of limited benefit but it is only really helpful if it is combined with appropriate input on exercise, posture etc. As far as I am aware there is only very limited evidence for use of epidural injections in lower back pain. The study done down here actually showed that they are a waste of time and money in the long run and that it is not possible to predict whether anyone will get any benefit, how much, how long.

Don't take anything you don't want to or that makes you feel unwell. If the clinic doc insists, put your foot down. It is your body and you have a right to decline or accept treatment as you see fit without prejudice.

In the meantime it is worth investigating other means of managing your pain and possibly learning what your body is trying to tell you at other levels.

Hope you start to see some positive results soon.
 
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For what its worth, I just thought I would add my 2 penny's worth. I am prescribed what is effectively an overdose of tramadol a day - with absolutely no effect whatsover, and with no side effects either. I also take topirate, the epilepsy medication for pain that has some pretty nasty side effects but apparently no pain relief.

I have had 3 epidurals. 2 Lumbar and 1 caudal. I was assured the caudal - which I had 2 months ago - had a much greater chance of success. But nada. Nothing. Absolutely no impact at all.

I am so sorry eden.eden that you have such a poor and patronising pain clinic doc. I met one like that today so i especially sympathise. It is incredibly demoralising and it can make you feel completely desperate.
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  38. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament April, Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Grace,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anika ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. New spring spa@:
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  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLuna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, LILY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธMariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in
  45. Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
    ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Iโ€™m Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough, Red Rose Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ RED ROSE HEALTH SPA: โœ…Red Rose Health Spa @ 2 Invergordon Avenue in Scarboroughโœ… โ˜Ž๏ธ416-292-1268โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ฏVivian available every Sunday and Monday from 10am to 9pm๐Ÿ’ฏ โ˜Ž๏ธCall Red Rose Health Spa 416-292-1268 to book
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
  47. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, sexy Coco and sweet EFG Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
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