Dan-El
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Posted on 01 Nov 2005 at 12:09.17 PM
This clinic replaced La Source Enr. on CdN. New admin, new philosophy, new decorations.
Young (19-22 ) chinse girls. Very good massage. Super clean, nice music, nice athmosphere, excellent wellcoming. 50 $ / hour.
Core philosophy: When a man ejaculates it has to spend the best of his intelligence to recreate the life giving cells. Consequently sperm has to kept inside as much as possible. This is tought by serious Tantric schools which are teaching the art of love.
Conclusion: Avoid going nuts. No HJ in this place or any sexual junk food.
Enjoy the art of touch !.
Dan-El
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DAK1
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Posted on 01 Nov 2005 at 03:23.53 PM
Thanks for the update on this new clinic and for giving us an idea of its goals. [The old La Source has merged with the second floor clinic on Monkland Av., NDG.]
Dan-El, if you are the owner of Genesis you can contact Mike, the Administrator of this site and get yourself registered as an owner. That way, you can post valuable info on your clinic and consider advertising in the near future. All the Best.
PS: If you are the owner, I have a question - given that the therapists are rather young, how well are they trained? Do you personally check the abilities of each therapist so "real massage lovers" can have an experience on par with places such as Absolu or Studio Bliss? The term "young girls" is interesting for some clients, but there are others like me who prefer a woman therapist who knows what she is doing. Too many places have girls who are novices practicing on their clients, many of who don't know any better, either.
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Dan-El
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Posted on 02 Nov 2005 at 01:16.29 AM
Hi DAK1,
Thanks for advice to register. Will !. I am new in this forum. Hope to get better.
To me the younger the girl the less she should know about anything. Youth fills in the lack of knowledge. To prove what I say one can just dissolute his ego while on massage table and just observe. Energies are totally different from one group of age to the other. Youth radiates light while Old absorbs. Sorry if it sounds weird but I am a tantric yogi and I " saw" this.
Here's how we do to train our girls: Nancy, my associate has a degree in massage from China and from Quebec association, she personally trains every new girl until she reaches a '"GOOD" level. Myself I am the training body and do not let them go for clients until I say " OK".
Also we have a Chinese doctor, 30 years experience in Tui-Na, who comes Sunday for 1-2 hours and shows them the subtleties of massage.
Those who frequented Ginsin know that Linda did a great job with her girls. I heard that she is not there anymore and they sell the place now.
Dan-El
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Originally posted by DAK1
Thanks for the update on this new clinic and for giving us an idea of its goals. [The old La Source has merged with the second floor clinic on Monkland Av., NDG.]
Dan-El, if you are the owner of Genesis you can contact Mike, the Administrator of this site and get yourself registered as an owner. That way, you can post valuable info on your clinic and consider advertising in the near future. All the Best.
PS: If you are the owner, I have a question - given that the therapists are rather young, how well are they trained? Do you personally check the abilities of each therapist so "real massage lovers" can have an experience on par with places such as Absolu or Studio Bliss? The term "young girls" is interesting for some clients, but there are others like me who prefer a woman therapist who knows what she is doing. Too many places have girls who are novices practicing on their clients, many of who don't know any better, either.
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DAK1
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Posted on 02 Nov 2005 at 09:29.18 AM
Dan-El,
Thank you for the feedback. And what you say does not sound all that weird to me. There is much more to the "life force" than what people casually see with their eyes looking outwards. And, no doubt, knowledge itself can prove to be a stumbling block. It is also good to hear someone using the word "tantric" in its proper context of harnessing, retaining, multiplying and utilizing Shakti or the life force for worthwhile goals (instead of the faddish nonsense that has been popularized).
Your approach is an honourable one (with a genuine concern for training) and may many good customers discover you. In Montreal, the choices for customers who enjoy a terrific massage (sometimes with a sensual touch, but no HJ) is quite limited. In fact, at most studios, if a client refuses extras, the masseuses get downright pissed off and ugly since they look at the extras as their main source of revenue. Many will disagree, but I sense that there are a few more people in Montreal who are ready for a no-extra type of massage (but they don't want the sterile environment of a medical massage clinic, either; nor do they want a therapist who comes across as a robot or one who looks like an ex women's shot- putt champion). If they are seeking extras and long lists of options, there are as many studios to choose from as there are doughnut and coffee shops.
Locationwise, your part of town does not have an Absolu or Bliss. So you have a good chance of making your studio successful in the same market niche (great massages, attractive, highly skilled therapists, no extras) if you can staff it right, train, maintain the ambience and monitor customer satisfaction. And of course, get the word out. Here is a tip - more and more people have insurance coverage for massotherapy. Most clinics offer receipts. But a Google search on many will reveal postings talking about lots of extras. [Your clinic name - Genesis -- previous owner most likely, reveals some HJ references too]. For people claiming receipts from these studios/therapists, this can result in some future embarrassment. An important element in defining your market niche is letting customers know that all is kosher at your studio. It's a safe place and it will remain so. And the therapists won't have that disappointed look when the customer does not select "a Thai Body Slide - tout garni, svp. or should it be, all-undressed". Enough said for now and Good Luck.
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Posted on 04 Nov 2005 at 11:01.35 AM
Je peux comprendre vos appréhensions. Il est difficile d'ouvrir un centre de massothérapie (un vrai) qui permettent aux clients de recevoir un massage digne de confiance.
Par contre, faire bonne fortune, je ne crois pas. Bien des massothérapeuthes diplomés crève la faim et tot ou tard soient qu'ils cessent le métier, persistent à croire à la bonne vertue ou encore traversent la ligne entre la massothérapie et le massage masculin.
Bien des hommes vont se faire masser plus dans le but de recevoir un peu de tendresse et les filles du milieu le savent très bien. Elles font sentir à leurs clients qui sont uniques mais c'est faux, c'est du marketing.
Même certains de ces centres de massage à option ferment par manque de client, de difficit de service, manque de personnel.
Ouvrir dans un contexte de haute concurrence n'est pas vraiement une bonne idée, je pense que vous l'avez réaliser en mettant en vente votre centre de massothérapie qui est è mon avis trop dispendieux car la clientele n'est pas la et c'est une clientele qui ne "tip" pas.
Vous pourriez faire de meilleurs affaires si vous ouvrez un peu votre esprit.
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Posted on 09 Nov 2005 at 06:09.56 PM
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Those who frequented Ginsin know that Linda did a great job with her girls. I heard that she is not there anymore and they sell the place now.
Dan-El
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Linda has two MP place , she sell the new one.
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Rock
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Posted on 09 Nov 2005 at 07:35.57 PM
It always amazes me when I read or hear that keeping my sperm inside of me is good for health bla bla bla....who are they deciding what`s good for me?And who said I want or need to keep my spray?Anyway,just a thought on a boring rainy evening....
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Posted on 09 Nov 2005 at 07:51.01 PM
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It always amazes me when I read or hear that keeping my sperm inside of me is good for health bla bla bla....who are they deciding what`s good for me?And who said I want or need to keep my spray?Anyway,just a thought on a boring rainy evening....
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keeping your sperm inside of you is good for health ? a chinese traditional doctor may tell you this. others may not.
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Dan-El
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Posted on 09 Nov 2005 at 11:09.20 PM
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Originally posted by Rock
It always amazes me when I read or hear that keeping my sperm inside of me is good for health bla bla bla....who are they deciding what`s good for me?And who said I want or need to keep my spray?Anyway,just a thought on a boring rainy evening....
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keeping your sperm inside of you is good for health ? a chinese traditional doctor may tell you this. others may not.
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This keeping the sperm inside thing came in the West from the ancient Indian practice of Yoga. What I know is that there is a long learning process in which one learns how to sublimate the sexual energy and transforms it into creative energy. Basically instead of creating life giving cells and waste them one uses that " vibration " to create much more trivial things and ...waste them. Pleasure is magnified by the process.
The side effect is that erection could be controlled indefinite and
man can have multiple orgasms during the erection period. Not leting the sperm out basically one creates the premises for an easier erection. Women adore this kind of skill since, as per statistics, 70 % of them have a longer time to orgasm than their partner.
These are not stories, there is a guy at Mille Iles ( L'autre Versant ) who teaches this art which is known as Tantra Yoga.
I went to the process and it is long and sometimes scary because one has to face the inner world in order to get to control the sexual areas in the brain, results are there and one could take more control of his life.
but..." de gustibus non disputandum.."
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Posted on 10 Nov 2005 at 04:09.49 PM
I'm figuring all this "not cumming is good for you" is a little like an athlete being told not to have sex or basically not cumming in order to maintain his energy. Feeling "spent" after an orgasm the male tends to get sleepy and or weak. Keeping the juice in would undoubtbly make you feel stronger or energized.
I know when I'm "cocked teased" to the point of ejaculation only to be left "unfinished" I'm very energiezed. So energiezed in fact that this animalistic feeling of energy builds within me to the point of being one with my true feelings (ie; anger, lust, vengeance)!
Now this may sound sarcastic but its not. I looked up the word "energetic" in a thesaurus. And these are words that have a similar meaning(yes I read books).
Energetic; (adj). aggressive, animated, brisk, charged, dynamic, enterprising, enthusiatic, forceful, forcible, high-powered, indefatigable, industrious, keen, kinetic, lively, mettlesome, spirited, strenuous, strong, tireless, vigorous, vivacious, zealous. (Non-formal: bright-eyed, electric, gung-ho, pumped, switched-on)
(Antonyms: inactive, lazy, lifeless, torpid, weak).
Personally if I was a female in a room with a man that I just "energized" and noticed he's being aggressive, animated, forcible, strong and zealous. I would finish the job and have him inactive, lazy, lifeless and weak!
Uncle Dirty...letting the hair on the back of my neck settle down...
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Posted on 15 Nov 2005 at 07:45.29 PM
Hi Dan-El,
Interesting concept a tantric massage? Now you say, enjoy the art of touch. Touch is not a one-way thing, it's a feedback loop. Are we supposed to get touched without touching back? There wouldn't be any feedback that way.
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Dan-El
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Posted on 15 Nov 2005 at 08:24.56 PM
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Hi Dan-El,
Interesting concept a tantric massage? Now you say, enjoy the art of touch. Touch is not a one-way thing, it's a feedback loop. Are we supposed to get touched without touching back? There wouldn't be any feedback that way.
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Hi bjsk90,
Ultimately we are supposed to drop the Ego and reach the Observer ( Seer) whose only atribute is to " see" and do not react. Basically you see the whole feed-back loop as being external to your ultimate nature. Time and space converge in one entity. This is our ultimate nature and it is immortal. Touch is only one way to travel to that state. Other senses could help us too.
Tantra is a science as complex as nuclear science and I would recommend it to any sex enjoyer since it drives one behind the scene.
Dan-El
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CoolBaba
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Posted on 16 Nov 2005 at 08:42.48 PM
Hi bjsk90,
Ultimately we are supposed to drop the Ego and reach the Observer ( Seer) whose only atribute is to " see" and do not react. Basically you see the whole feed-back loop as being external to your ultimate nature. Time and space converge in one entity. This is our ultimate nature and it is immortal. Touch is only one way to travel to that state. Other senses could help us too.
Tantra is a science as complex as nuclear science and I would recommend it to any sex enjoyer since it drives one behind the scene.
Dan-El
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Come on Dan-El..
Please cut the pseudo-spiritual bs...
You will not find tantra in a massage parlor period anywhere in the world..
So don't pretend to even know what that word means.
Honestly yours,
Coolbaba
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Argon
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Posted on 17 Nov 2005 at 10:48.34 AM
You may be right Cool Baba, but some studios or MP's will use tantric techniques, some without even knowing it. And it makes for a more enjoyable session. The MP will focus on your senses, and make sure the sensual part lasts as long as you can stand it. Breathing technique is important as I learned in my few experiences. And it has helped me prolong the pleasure in many instances... Cooooool. But then again, what do I know about tantric practise... not much I agree.
But learning is where lies all the fun.
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Dan-El
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Posted on 17 Nov 2005 at 12:56.12 PM
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Originally posted by CoolBaba
Hi bjsk90,
Ultimately we are supposed to drop the Ego and reach the Observer ( Seer) whose only atribute is to " see" and do not react. Basically you see the whole feed-back loop as being external to your ultimate nature. Time and space converge in one entity. This is our ultimate nature and it is immortal. Touch is only one way to travel to that state. Other senses could help us too.
Tantra is a science as complex as nuclear science and I would recommend it to any sex enjoyer since it drives one behind the scene.
Dan-El
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Come on Dan-El..
Please cut the pseudo-spiritual bs...
You will not find tantra in a massage parlor period anywhere in the world..
So don't pretend to even know what that word means.
Honestly yours,
Hi CoolBaba,
You are right CoolBaba, definitely a massage parlor is not the best place to unify the Shakti and Shiva. Here a lot of negative energy is discharged. What I would like is that, as massage enjoyers, men to saturate their minds of joy and then have a chance into opening another " door" into our consciousness so we can see further. All senses become gates to higher, or more subtle, concepts.
Personally when I have a massage I do not move at all and try just to observe the inner life as it would not be mine. Whatever the girl does is not that important since I am not analytical anymore. I accept whatever comes up and let go.
Indeed there is a lot of bs spirituality around since in the West we do not have the time to spend 10-20 years with a master and learn something genuine. Western mind is analytical and scientific and I beleive there is plenty of good in this. Still we need to liberate ourselves from the suffering and agitation. How ....?
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DAK1
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Posted on 17 Nov 2005 at 01:25.35 PM
Seconding Argon's thoughts - "Learning is where lies all the fun".
Maintaining the status quo is akin to death.
Tantra and awakening the Kundalini and the Shakti (strength) may appear to be a load of bull dust to some. But since truth has no beginning or end, it has been around a lot longer than modern money making psycho-babble movements have been. As for the new age crap of interpreting tantra as a path for better sex - weekend workshops, anybody?
Looking at it another way -
The spiritual art of love...of connecting spirit with form. It is experiencing love through the beauty of the earth and all existence. It is about acceptance, rather than denial. It also embraces compassion... truth within unconditional love...getting to realize the Self, beyond body, mind, thoughts, forms and names.
All crap? Nothing to do with massage? Good answers only appear in silence. Like the first ray of light at dawn. Or a new understanding that shines through just as you feel yourself losing your normal day to day waking consciousness during a deep massage...that moment when you begin to drool...you get to taste eternity.
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Posted on 17 Nov 2005 at 11:50.13 PM
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Seconding Argon's thoughts - "Learning is where lies all the fun".
All crap? Nothing to do with massage? Good answers only appear in silence. Like the first ray of light at dawn. Or a new understanding that shines through just as you feel yourself losing your normal day to day waking consciousness during a deep massage...that moment when you begin to drool...you get to taste eternity.
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hmmm... DAK...
Amaram Hum Madhuram Hum?
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justme
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Posted on 18 Nov 2005 at 02:57.38 PM
i`d say....
two number two for two without egg rolls...
merlin
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Posted on 29 Nov 2005 at 06:27.57 PM
well I had to go there and experience this place personally.I had 50$ in my pocket waiting to be spent or wasted.Had the hot rocks on my back and legs by Nancey for 15 minutes,(nice lady and a nice feeling with the rocks) then she says Helen will give me my massage and leaves me.Helen,(a little cold attiude) dressed in a chinese red suit,goodlooking,body typically chinese.(flat)Asked for strong,got a regular massage,nothing special,had much better many times else where.No teasing and forget the hj.It was an expierence.I then had to leave quickly, to get some satisfaction and a real massage from Candy at Sherry,s place.Thank God for alternatives.Maybe others will enjoy,but not me.
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TONYC
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Posted on 08 Dec 2005 at 03:02.30 PM
Went there last thursday and was told the clinic had been sold to a chinese lady and the new management will start this week.
wondering if anybody has tried the new management as i was told they are more flexible on the service??
thanks in advance as i plan to go back soon
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Posted on 20 Dec 2005 at 05:24.12 PM
I was there last night, it has been taken over by the owner of
aro massage on du college. the girls work at both places.
service last night was very good one of the best I had yet.
very petit chinese girl. techinique was good. she realy gave a great massage...
the staff is very friendly. they try to make it as your are at a freind s house.
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Posted on 01 Nov 2005 at 12:09.17 PM
This clinic replaced La Source Enr. on CdN. New admin, new philosophy, new decorations.
Young (19-22 ) chinse girls. Very good massage. Super clean, nice music, nice athmosphere, excellent wellcoming. 50 $ / hour.
Core philosophy: When a man ejaculates it has to spend the best of his intelligence to recreate the life giving cells. Consequently sperm has to kept inside as much as possible. This is tought by serious Tantric schools which are teaching the art of love.
Conclusion: Avoid going nuts. No HJ in this place or any sexual junk food.
Enjoy the art of touch !.
Dan-El
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DAK1
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Posted on 01 Nov 2005 at 03:23.53 PM
Thanks for the update on this new clinic and for giving us an idea of its goals. [The old La Source has merged with the second floor clinic on Monkland Av., NDG.]
Dan-El, if you are the owner of Genesis you can contact Mike, the Administrator of this site and get yourself registered as an owner. That way, you can post valuable info on your clinic and consider advertising in the near future. All the Best.
PS: If you are the owner, I have a question - given that the therapists are rather young, how well are they trained? Do you personally check the abilities of each therapist so "real massage lovers" can have an experience on par with places such as Absolu or Studio Bliss? The term "young girls" is interesting for some clients, but there are others like me who prefer a woman therapist who knows what she is doing. Too many places have girls who are novices practicing on their clients, many of who don't know any better, either.
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Dan-El
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Posted on 02 Nov 2005 at 01:16.29 AM
Hi DAK1,
Thanks for advice to register. Will !. I am new in this forum. Hope to get better.
To me the younger the girl the less she should know about anything. Youth fills in the lack of knowledge. To prove what I say one can just dissolute his ego while on massage table and just observe. Energies are totally different from one group of age to the other. Youth radiates light while Old absorbs. Sorry if it sounds weird but I am a tantric yogi and I " saw" this.
Here's how we do to train our girls: Nancy, my associate has a degree in massage from China and from Quebec association, she personally trains every new girl until she reaches a '"GOOD" level. Myself I am the training body and do not let them go for clients until I say " OK".
Also we have a Chinese doctor, 30 years experience in Tui-Na, who comes Sunday for 1-2 hours and shows them the subtleties of massage.
Those who frequented Ginsin know that Linda did a great job with her girls. I heard that she is not there anymore and they sell the place now.
Dan-El
quote:
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Originally posted by DAK1
Thanks for the update on this new clinic and for giving us an idea of its goals. [The old La Source has merged with the second floor clinic on Monkland Av., NDG.]
Dan-El, if you are the owner of Genesis you can contact Mike, the Administrator of this site and get yourself registered as an owner. That way, you can post valuable info on your clinic and consider advertising in the near future. All the Best.
PS: If you are the owner, I have a question - given that the therapists are rather young, how well are they trained? Do you personally check the abilities of each therapist so "real massage lovers" can have an experience on par with places such as Absolu or Studio Bliss? The term "young girls" is interesting for some clients, but there are others like me who prefer a woman therapist who knows what she is doing. Too many places have girls who are novices practicing on their clients, many of who don't know any better, either.
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Posted on 02 Nov 2005 at 09:29.18 AM
Dan-El,
Thank you for the feedback. And what you say does not sound all that weird to me. There is much more to the "life force" than what people casually see with their eyes looking outwards. And, no doubt, knowledge itself can prove to be a stumbling block. It is also good to hear someone using the word "tantric" in its proper context of harnessing, retaining, multiplying and utilizing Shakti or the life force for worthwhile goals (instead of the faddish nonsense that has been popularized).
Your approach is an honourable one (with a genuine concern for training) and may many good customers discover you. In Montreal, the choices for customers who enjoy a terrific massage (sometimes with a sensual touch, but no HJ) is quite limited. In fact, at most studios, if a client refuses extras, the masseuses get downright pissed off and ugly since they look at the extras as their main source of revenue. Many will disagree, but I sense that there are a few more people in Montreal who are ready for a no-extra type of massage (but they don't want the sterile environment of a medical massage clinic, either; nor do they want a therapist who comes across as a robot or one who looks like an ex women's shot- putt champion). If they are seeking extras and long lists of options, there are as many studios to choose from as there are doughnut and coffee shops.
Locationwise, your part of town does not have an Absolu or Bliss. So you have a good chance of making your studio successful in the same market niche (great massages, attractive, highly skilled therapists, no extras) if you can staff it right, train, maintain the ambience and monitor customer satisfaction. And of course, get the word out. Here is a tip - more and more people have insurance coverage for massotherapy. Most clinics offer receipts. But a Google search on many will reveal postings talking about lots of extras. [Your clinic name - Genesis -- previous owner most likely, reveals some HJ references too]. For people claiming receipts from these studios/therapists, this can result in some future embarrassment. An important element in defining your market niche is letting customers know that all is kosher at your studio. It's a safe place and it will remain so. And the therapists won't have that disappointed look when the customer does not select "a Thai Body Slide - tout garni, svp. or should it be, all-undressed". Enough said for now and Good Luck.
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Esquimo
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Posted on 04 Nov 2005 at 11:01.35 AM
Je peux comprendre vos appréhensions. Il est difficile d'ouvrir un centre de massothérapie (un vrai) qui permettent aux clients de recevoir un massage digne de confiance.
Par contre, faire bonne fortune, je ne crois pas. Bien des massothérapeuthes diplomés crève la faim et tot ou tard soient qu'ils cessent le métier, persistent à croire à la bonne vertue ou encore traversent la ligne entre la massothérapie et le massage masculin.
Bien des hommes vont se faire masser plus dans le but de recevoir un peu de tendresse et les filles du milieu le savent très bien. Elles font sentir à leurs clients qui sont uniques mais c'est faux, c'est du marketing.
Même certains de ces centres de massage à option ferment par manque de client, de difficit de service, manque de personnel.
Ouvrir dans un contexte de haute concurrence n'est pas vraiement une bonne idée, je pense que vous l'avez réaliser en mettant en vente votre centre de massothérapie qui est è mon avis trop dispendieux car la clientele n'est pas la et c'est une clientele qui ne "tip" pas.
Vous pourriez faire de meilleurs affaires si vous ouvrez un peu votre esprit.
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lasgard
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Posted on 09 Nov 2005 at 06:09.56 PM
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Originally posted by Dan-El
Those who frequented Ginsin know that Linda did a great job with her girls. I heard that she is not there anymore and they sell the place now.
Dan-El
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Linda has two MP place , she sell the new one.
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Rock
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Posted on 09 Nov 2005 at 07:35.57 PM
It always amazes me when I read or hear that keeping my sperm inside of me is good for health bla bla bla....who are they deciding what`s good for me?And who said I want or need to keep my spray?Anyway,just a thought on a boring rainy evening....
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Posted on 09 Nov 2005 at 07:51.01 PM
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Originally posted by Rock
It always amazes me when I read or hear that keeping my sperm inside of me is good for health bla bla bla....who are they deciding what`s good for me?And who said I want or need to keep my spray?Anyway,just a thought on a boring rainy evening....
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keeping your sperm inside of you is good for health ? a chinese traditional doctor may tell you this. others may not.
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Dan-El
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Posted on 09 Nov 2005 at 11:09.20 PM
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It always amazes me when I read or hear that keeping my sperm inside of me is good for health bla bla bla....who are they deciding what`s good for me?And who said I want or need to keep my spray?Anyway,just a thought on a boring rainy evening....
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keeping your sperm inside of you is good for health ? a chinese traditional doctor may tell you this. others may not.
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This keeping the sperm inside thing came in the West from the ancient Indian practice of Yoga. What I know is that there is a long learning process in which one learns how to sublimate the sexual energy and transforms it into creative energy. Basically instead of creating life giving cells and waste them one uses that " vibration " to create much more trivial things and ...waste them. Pleasure is magnified by the process.
The side effect is that erection could be controlled indefinite and
man can have multiple orgasms during the erection period. Not leting the sperm out basically one creates the premises for an easier erection. Women adore this kind of skill since, as per statistics, 70 % of them have a longer time to orgasm than their partner.
These are not stories, there is a guy at Mille Iles ( L'autre Versant ) who teaches this art which is known as Tantra Yoga.
I went to the process and it is long and sometimes scary because one has to face the inner world in order to get to control the sexual areas in the brain, results are there and one could take more control of his life.
but..." de gustibus non disputandum.."
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Godfather
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Posted on 10 Nov 2005 at 04:09.49 PM
I'm figuring all this "not cumming is good for you" is a little like an athlete being told not to have sex or basically not cumming in order to maintain his energy. Feeling "spent" after an orgasm the male tends to get sleepy and or weak. Keeping the juice in would undoubtbly make you feel stronger or energized.
I know when I'm "cocked teased" to the point of ejaculation only to be left "unfinished" I'm very energiezed. So energiezed in fact that this animalistic feeling of energy builds within me to the point of being one with my true feelings (ie; anger, lust, vengeance)!
Now this may sound sarcastic but its not. I looked up the word "energetic" in a thesaurus. And these are words that have a similar meaning(yes I read books).
Energetic; (adj). aggressive, animated, brisk, charged, dynamic, enterprising, enthusiatic, forceful, forcible, high-powered, indefatigable, industrious, keen, kinetic, lively, mettlesome, spirited, strenuous, strong, tireless, vigorous, vivacious, zealous. (Non-formal: bright-eyed, electric, gung-ho, pumped, switched-on)
(Antonyms: inactive, lazy, lifeless, torpid, weak).
Personally if I was a female in a room with a man that I just "energized" and noticed he's being aggressive, animated, forcible, strong and zealous. I would finish the job and have him inactive, lazy, lifeless and weak!
Uncle Dirty...letting the hair on the back of my neck settle down...
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bjsk90
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Posted on 15 Nov 2005 at 07:45.29 PM
Hi Dan-El,
Interesting concept a tantric massage? Now you say, enjoy the art of touch. Touch is not a one-way thing, it's a feedback loop. Are we supposed to get touched without touching back? There wouldn't be any feedback that way.
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Dan-El
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Posted on 15 Nov 2005 at 08:24.56 PM
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Hi Dan-El,
Interesting concept a tantric massage? Now you say, enjoy the art of touch. Touch is not a one-way thing, it's a feedback loop. Are we supposed to get touched without touching back? There wouldn't be any feedback that way.
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Hi bjsk90,
Ultimately we are supposed to drop the Ego and reach the Observer ( Seer) whose only atribute is to " see" and do not react. Basically you see the whole feed-back loop as being external to your ultimate nature. Time and space converge in one entity. This is our ultimate nature and it is immortal. Touch is only one way to travel to that state. Other senses could help us too.
Tantra is a science as complex as nuclear science and I would recommend it to any sex enjoyer since it drives one behind the scene.
Dan-El
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CoolBaba
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Posted on 16 Nov 2005 at 08:42.48 PM
Hi bjsk90,
Ultimately we are supposed to drop the Ego and reach the Observer ( Seer) whose only atribute is to " see" and do not react. Basically you see the whole feed-back loop as being external to your ultimate nature. Time and space converge in one entity. This is our ultimate nature and it is immortal. Touch is only one way to travel to that state. Other senses could help us too.
Tantra is a science as complex as nuclear science and I would recommend it to any sex enjoyer since it drives one behind the scene.
Dan-El
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Come on Dan-El..
Please cut the pseudo-spiritual bs...
You will not find tantra in a massage parlor period anywhere in the world..
So don't pretend to even know what that word means.
Honestly yours,
Coolbaba
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Argon
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Posted on 17 Nov 2005 at 10:48.34 AM
You may be right Cool Baba, but some studios or MP's will use tantric techniques, some without even knowing it. And it makes for a more enjoyable session. The MP will focus on your senses, and make sure the sensual part lasts as long as you can stand it. Breathing technique is important as I learned in my few experiences. And it has helped me prolong the pleasure in many instances... Cooooool. But then again, what do I know about tantric practise... not much I agree.
But learning is where lies all the fun.
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Dan-El
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Posted on 17 Nov 2005 at 12:56.12 PM
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Originally posted by CoolBaba
Hi bjsk90,
Ultimately we are supposed to drop the Ego and reach the Observer ( Seer) whose only atribute is to " see" and do not react. Basically you see the whole feed-back loop as being external to your ultimate nature. Time and space converge in one entity. This is our ultimate nature and it is immortal. Touch is only one way to travel to that state. Other senses could help us too.
Tantra is a science as complex as nuclear science and I would recommend it to any sex enjoyer since it drives one behind the scene.
Dan-El
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Come on Dan-El..
Please cut the pseudo-spiritual bs...
You will not find tantra in a massage parlor period anywhere in the world..
So don't pretend to even know what that word means.
Honestly yours,
Hi CoolBaba,
You are right CoolBaba, definitely a massage parlor is not the best place to unify the Shakti and Shiva. Here a lot of negative energy is discharged. What I would like is that, as massage enjoyers, men to saturate their minds of joy and then have a chance into opening another " door" into our consciousness so we can see further. All senses become gates to higher, or more subtle, concepts.
Personally when I have a massage I do not move at all and try just to observe the inner life as it would not be mine. Whatever the girl does is not that important since I am not analytical anymore. I accept whatever comes up and let go.
Indeed there is a lot of bs spirituality around since in the West we do not have the time to spend 10-20 years with a master and learn something genuine. Western mind is analytical and scientific and I beleive there is plenty of good in this. Still we need to liberate ourselves from the suffering and agitation. How ....?
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DAK1
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Posted on 17 Nov 2005 at 01:25.35 PM
Seconding Argon's thoughts - "Learning is where lies all the fun".
Maintaining the status quo is akin to death.
Tantra and awakening the Kundalini and the Shakti (strength) may appear to be a load of bull dust to some. But since truth has no beginning or end, it has been around a lot longer than modern money making psycho-babble movements have been. As for the new age crap of interpreting tantra as a path for better sex - weekend workshops, anybody?
Looking at it another way -
The spiritual art of love...of connecting spirit with form. It is experiencing love through the beauty of the earth and all existence. It is about acceptance, rather than denial. It also embraces compassion... truth within unconditional love...getting to realize the Self, beyond body, mind, thoughts, forms and names.
All crap? Nothing to do with massage? Good answers only appear in silence. Like the first ray of light at dawn. Or a new understanding that shines through just as you feel yourself losing your normal day to day waking consciousness during a deep massage...that moment when you begin to drool...you get to taste eternity.
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CoolBaba
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Posted on 17 Nov 2005 at 11:50.13 PM
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Originally posted by DAK1
Seconding Argon's thoughts - "Learning is where lies all the fun".
All crap? Nothing to do with massage? Good answers only appear in silence. Like the first ray of light at dawn. Or a new understanding that shines through just as you feel yourself losing your normal day to day waking consciousness during a deep massage...that moment when you begin to drool...you get to taste eternity.
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hmmm... DAK...
Amaram Hum Madhuram Hum?
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justme
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Posted on 18 Nov 2005 at 02:57.38 PM
i`d say....
two number two for two without egg rolls...
merlin
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hotdog
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Posted on 29 Nov 2005 at 06:27.57 PM
well I had to go there and experience this place personally.I had 50$ in my pocket waiting to be spent or wasted.Had the hot rocks on my back and legs by Nancey for 15 minutes,(nice lady and a nice feeling with the rocks) then she says Helen will give me my massage and leaves me.Helen,(a little cold attiude) dressed in a chinese red suit,goodlooking,body typically chinese.(flat)Asked for strong,got a regular massage,nothing special,had much better many times else where.No teasing and forget the hj.It was an expierence.I then had to leave quickly, to get some satisfaction and a real massage from Candy at Sherry,s place.Thank God for alternatives.Maybe others will enjoy,but not me.
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enjoy,this could be your last day on earth.
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TONYC
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User since 12 Nov 2005 - 1 posts
Posted on 08 Dec 2005 at 03:02.30 PM
Went there last thursday and was told the clinic had been sold to a chinese lady and the new management will start this week.
wondering if anybody has tried the new management as i was told they are more flexible on the service??
thanks in advance as i plan to go back soon
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Posted on 20 Dec 2005 at 05:24.12 PM
I was there last night, it has been taken over by the owner of
aro massage on du college. the girls work at both places.
service last night was very good one of the best I had yet.
very petit chinese girl. techinique was good. she realy gave a great massage...
the staff is very friendly. they try to make it as your are at a freind s house.
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