Advice for Newbie and Avoiding STD's

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Hello

I've been a lurker here for about a year now. I'm in my 50's, separated, and looking to try out the hobby. I'm not rushing to get into anything, perhaps a HJ or a CBJ at this point. I'm primarily interested in asian girls.

Not ready for FS, DATY, or DIGITS. I'm also terrified about the risks of STD's and crabs. I'm looking for a spa that places a premium on sanitization and cleanliness.

I like the girls at QQ, 99Kingzone, and the VIPSPA19 collection. Girlfriend416 might not be for me at this point, although I am open to it down the road.

Any suggestions? Curious to hear your thoughts on how clean these spa's really are. I've heard that the towels and bedsheets are not even changed on the tables between customers at a few establishments.
 
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So it sounds like you lie the Asian spas. I suggest easing your way into the hobby. Go to Suko first as that will be like dipping your toes into the water. Then move up to Just Relax, Shangri-La, Blue Nile and Golden Rosewater.

If you want to go the non-Asian route, go to Flirt. Itโ€™s a bodyrub so the massage is not the focus.
 
Hello

I've been a lurker here for about a year now. I'm in my 50's, separated, and looking to try out the hobby. I'm not rushing to get into anything, perhaps a HJ or a CBJ at this point. I'm primarily interested in asian girls.

Not ready for FS, DATY, or DIGITS. I'm also terrified about the risks of STD's and crabs. I'm looking for a spa that places a premium on sanitization and cleanliness.

I like the girls at QQ, 99Kingzone, and the VIPSPA19 collection. Girlfriend416 might not be for me at this point, although I am open to it down the road.

Any suggestions? Curious to hear your thoughts on how clean these spa's really are. I've heard that the towels and bedsheets are not even changed on the tables between customers at a few establishments.
โ€ฆ stick w HJ & u can hobby 50 yrs nvr catch anythng ๐Ÿฆ  โ€ฆ well, respiratory like COVID, sure, but no STIs โ€ฆ or crabsโ€ฆ ๐Ÿฆ€

TBH, nvr heard anyone getting crabs these daysโ€ฆ if girl shaves, they got nowhere 2 hide, & if u do DATY, e-z 2 inspectโ€ฆ :lick

Places @Hornet mentions = very cleanโ€ฆ cant go wrong any of themโ€ฆ Id add eSpa 2โ€ฆ. Shower ๐Ÿšฟ in every rm, & girls use โ€˜mโ€ฆ luv that clean bleachy smells f/ clean towelsโ€ฆ when I bike near a spa & smell that, gets me going ๐Ÿ† โ€ฆ hard not 2 visit!

Fear of STIs :sick gonna mess w yer funtimesโ€ฆ lotsa pretty girls @ semilegit / semiholistic places, stick w them unless yer fear goes awayโ€ฆ seriously, hard 2 cum if yer worriedโ€ฆ :unsure

When I started hobbying every wk @ semilegit place, definitely noticed minor illnessesโ€ฆ like sore throat, lil skin rashโ€ฆ just being intimate w girls who get intimate w lotsa dudes, even w/o fs, germs get passed aroundโ€ฆ sporting hazardโ€ฆ but it passes, esp if u keep fit, eat healthy, get enuf sleepโ€ฆ
 
I have been at this game for a long time, longer that I care to admit, Never caught anything even on the occasions I went bare back.

Stay away rom doubtful coochies and learn to be selective as to where you put it in.

starting slow is the key so you learn who is safe, remember that appearances are deceitful. A clean looking girl could be an STD cesspool

At any time you are not sure go see your doctor.
 
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So it sounds like you lie the Asian spas. I suggest easing your way into the hobby. Go to Suko first as that will be like dipping your toes into the water. Then move up to Just Relax, Shangri-La, Blue Nile and Golden Rosewater.

If you want to go the non-Asian route, go to Flirt. Itโ€™s a bodyrub so the massage is not the focus.

Thanks for the info. I had never heard of these spa's before. Are they semit legit? How far are they willing to go at these places?
 
โ€ฆ stick w HJ & u can hobby 50 yrs nvr catch anythng ๐Ÿฆ  โ€ฆ well, respiratory like COVID, sure, but no STIs โ€ฆ or crabsโ€ฆ ๐Ÿฆ€

TBH, nvr heard anyone getting crabs these daysโ€ฆ if girl shaves, they got nowhere 2 hide, & if u do DATY, e-z 2 inspectโ€ฆ :lick

Places @Hornet mentions = very cleanโ€ฆ cant go wrong any of themโ€ฆ Id add eSpa 2โ€ฆ. Shower ๐Ÿšฟ in every rm, & girls use โ€˜mโ€ฆ luv that clean bleachy smells f/ clean towelsโ€ฆ when I bike near a spa & smell that, gets me going ๐Ÿ† โ€ฆ hard not 2 visit!

Fear of STIs :sick gonna mess w yer funtimesโ€ฆ lotsa pretty girls @ semilegit / semiholistic places, stick w them unless yer fear goes awayโ€ฆ seriously, hard 2 cum if yer worriedโ€ฆ :unsure

When I started hobbying every wk @ semilegit place, definitely noticed minor illnessesโ€ฆ like sore throat, lil skin rashโ€ฆ just being intimate w girls who get intimate w lotsa dudes, even w/o fs, germs get passed aroundโ€ฆ sporting hazardโ€ฆ but it passes, esp if u keep fit, eat healthy, get enuf sleepโ€ฆ

Good info. What about crabs from the sheets? This is one of the reason's I'm scared of incalls. Who knows what's in there!

Heard of e-spa. I assume it's semi legit?

What's the risk of syphilis or herpes from a HJ?

Your right about the viruses. COVID of course is also a concern.
 
I have been at this game for a long time, longer that I care to admit, Never caught anything even on the occasions I went bare back.

Stay away rom doubtful coochies and learn to be selective as to where you put it in.

starting slow is the key so you learn who is safe, remember that appearances are deceitful. A clean looking girl could be and STD cesspool

At any time you are not sure go see your doctor.

I guess it's a lot of trial and error. What are your thoughts on incalls? Are they usually clean?
 
If all you're interested in is a good masaage and a hand-release or cbj, you should relax and enjoy the semi-legitimate services at Shangri-La, Just Relax, Golden Rosewater, or Blue Nile. All but Just Relax also slide toward the semi-holistic as well - each of them is clean and professional.

However...

You seem anxious as can be about this, imagining every possible disaster that might befall you. If you don't relax you'll spend your money for nothing but worry.
 
If all you're interested in is a good masaage and a hand-release or cbj, you should relax and enjoy the semi-legitimate services at Shangri-La, Just Relax, Golden Rosewater, or Blue Nile. All but Just Relax also slide toward the semi-holistic as well - each of them is clean and professional.

At this point your right, this is primarily what I am looking for

However...

You seem anxious as can be about this, imagining every possible disaster that might befall you. If you don't relax you'll spend your money for nothing but worry.

Your right about this as well. I guess being a germ freak doesn't help. Well said brother.
 
I guess it's a lot of trial and error. What are your thoughts on incalls? Are they usually clean?
Same rules apply for In calls, but as for the cleanliness of sheets etc. I can't testify to that, I know at MPs you get a fresh table cover every time but at in calls is a different game,
 
Thanks for the info. I had never heard of these spa's before. Are they semit legit? How far are they willing to go at these places?
Suko is the most semi-legit of them all. A HE is available. Some more can be had with some girls but this is a tighter run ship so donโ€™t expect much from Suko which is why itโ€™s a good place to start out. Overall, donโ€™t expect more than a bodyslide in most cases.
 
Suko is the most semi-legit of them all. A HE is available. Some more can be had with some girls but this is a tighter run ship so donโ€™t expect much from Suko which is why itโ€™s a good place to start out. Overall, donโ€™t expect more than a bodyslide in most cases.
Suko gives good service, etc. but I found the walls were paper thin and not my thing to hear everything that goes on on adjacent rooms.
 
Good info. What about crabs from the sheets? This is one of the reason's I'm scared of incalls. Who knows what's in there!

Heard of e-spa. I assume it's semi legit?

What's the risk of syphilis or herpes from a HJ?

Your right about the viruses. COVID of course is also a concern.
Msg places always change sheets btwn clientsโ€ฆ @ least ones mentioned hereโ€ฆ incalls @ hotels? Nope! :unsure

eSpa = full menu placeโ€ฆ just remarkably clean, shower ๐Ÿšฟ in every rm, theyโ€™re constantly cleaning surfaces & flrsโ€ฆ I hung around talkng w mgr a few times when itโ€™s not busy & girls sweeping & mopping ๐Ÿงน when itโ€™s quietโ€ฆ no wonder theyโ€™re so happy when a client arrives!

Syph/herpes ๐Ÿฆ  โ€ฆ u can get f/ legit msgโ€ฆ or hj โ€ฆ or cfsโ€ฆ they donโ€™t moralizeโ€ฆ require skin2skin contact or skin/mucosal membraneโ€ฆ if u stay away f/ someone w active sores, chance = minimal, but not zeroโ€ฆ if u donโ€™t notice any outbreak , itโ€™s fractions of 1%โ€ฆ
 
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    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open to 9pm: *New Girl BELLA: is a cute European lady with blonde hair & blue eyes, busty E Cups, curvy body & sweet slow service. KITTY): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k
  32. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Judy very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Mina is long hair sexy ,she know what do you need,must try๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer -๐Ÿ”ฅA sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  35. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Red Rose Spa:
    ASHA, ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ANAYA, ANGEL, LUCY, NISHA, MEERA, ANGELINA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. COCO medium build
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธEMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything.
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with curve body open mind and young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks open mind, pretty GFE Lina and young sweet Vivian 22โ€™s are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla & Phoenix are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. SAMMY2016:
    Z-ONE
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Mia sexy body big boobs 36DD very good body slide and massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
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